South DaCola Podcast Ep 015 Tom Hurlbert
Host Scott L. Ehrisman and nameless co-host.
Special Guest Tom Hurlbert candidate for Sioux Falls City Council Central District.
Produced by Robert Mehling
Theme Music “Rainy Day” by Brian Masek & Friends
Tags and Topics
Scott Ehrisman, Robert Mehling, Tom Hurlbert, Sioux Falls, City Council, Mike Huether, City Employees, community, Tax Revenue, Transparency, Parking Ramp Deal, TIF, Zoning, Affordable Housing, Public Records, population density
[0:27] Well here in socal podcast equinox at fourteen pressure and.
We’re gonna continuous and can they interviews my co host his name when in speaker that make it tonight he is still recovering from two point o baby so it will have the night off again.
But i guess tonight is tom her over and he is running for the central district of the crowded race and once you cilantro.
Tom has a user me here your of my time robertsons register them,
in order to get your in town and he grew up through never seen in,
my dad was a low intensity commissioner my grandpa was a long term mayor of their town and so i had a little introduction and sort of interest in that civic engagement from an early age,
when i was montana got an architectural degree and was in new york for a few years and made my way back here in two thousand.
Four am to work for an architecture firm in downtown live downtown.
You see you kind of roaming around the astronauts on the quite awhile and.
And really just got a lot of interesting projects in the in the corner and have to lived and been working here are architecture firm cool architecture.
I started a firm in two thousand eight and i have a business partner and we’ve been expanding with thirteen people now working all over the state it twelve and a lot of just kind of any kind of commercial work.
[2:08] Yeah i would like to resume on line and he doesn’t want to work you do a lot of meat you alot of the disco projects and or.
Government projects please eight yeah we do and i think does this you know working with these sd six sort of,
following little bit of the politics you and just you know i think this just in what i do you and i have something to offer and that my skills that might match up pretty well with without losing the opportunity to cancel,
he yeah and,
and the city council sir we could use some help lately when it comes to our feasibility practice that’s for sure lot of little in the little black shoes because i think that we could you know i’ve written rv’s for for her smaller community sometimes he can help you really know in our,
it looks like,
i was listening to it to a lot of our are fees for responses so i think i could i think i’m making those of questions asked one of the simple things i think we could use just.
Put together a small committee and and review the irs fees as standard as a little better and make sure i have a good process in place in the purchasing agent right now handles most along and.
[3:21] There’s a lot of i think there’s i think people think that there are people process is completely broken in sioux falls now it’s time to remind people that get some aren’t working the way they should.
[3:33] What people don’t realize is that hundreds of our peace go off every month for all kinds of things in the city of and the city council should it bother themselves with buying you know,
what are my options attack this is so many bigger projects the should be more involved increases with the golf contract you know they were upset that there’s a policy change and the,
the council was not consulted at a time to go to change from a lease to management agreement or right back to the other way around camera was but there is not so soon beer contracts is i think is is what they would like to,
to get more involved with it with policy possessed our job.
But time went for full disclosure i have no time for quite awhile since he moved to follow the.
Right arm to where your loyalty and insure a lot of people listen to it.
Yo is there never done and he doesn’t want is cool with the right of first front person and.
Didn’t work did not work can you wash clothes for all you know in high school you probably weird stories of where i live those sources and when i was good friends with your cousin,
bryan on your ipad yeah so.
So that’s the schools that is the bathroom thompson softballs here anyway.
That’s what this questions you want to ask for first i wasn’t going to this week.
Turn the topics obviously covered in this whole mayoral account so can the rake and currently my nose is there something that someone has brought it for more than user.
[5:17] Something that is just passivity you that you thought about a new sim card to do this better i’d like to do this.
Is it is there anything that has not been brought up in the news and what.
[5:29] Eight oz rv thing is their views smaller invisible things like that that i think we can do i ever gonna fishing some of these projects you’ve started.
I think we need to continue with you know that,
the green way project is that is i think to some degree i think we’re in the same lane on are interested downtown and the value that downtown brings i think my my messaging is probably.
[5:56] One of the things i’m talking about is the growth aspect right and i know that i’m not the only one that wrote this but specifically i don’t think people realize their potential growth it’s gonna happen in this community pretty quickly according to some of the wrong city estimates,
and i mentioned this before but we’re basically gonna beginning its population size appears for a yearly basis right,
and what this means that is for a whole community but to the central where we gonna where are these people going to live in central district.
And where they work and what is this gonna do to our infrastructure in a potential what i can do are downtown and cory’s can really blast off the way that.
I don’t think people realize how much potential is there and and all the result i agree i’m not i’m kind of.
I need phone strong times for a long time and don’t always agree with everything charles is but a lot of this stuff is just real common sense density urban development and one of the other candidates the central district.
Was talking about how they didn’t like the way this mean we’re talking and discussion and he didn’t like the way.
Mr anthony works and is yeah i need more curb appeal they said you know what you know what you know and i moved right angle b is in nineteen ninety one i moved to sioux falls.
That wasn’t apartment directly yeah and i and i told him i said you know when i moved here in nineteen ninety one you’ll minnesota avenue look like a decent one ago.
[7:26] The same way it looks today there’s been no change to her and got her.
To curb appeal a madison avenue for that long and it was probably twenty years for that to and i have to sit tell people if you wanna have a reality and in what are there always.
Walk down the center avenue ticket nice day and take a walk down the street,
and i can’t walk down forty first street and look at it that the the what the shit is that is very bad me something and i talk or,
and is it really is score really is the caller id call it proper i believe it starts it he wants,
it goes all the way to probably cliff or a clean one maybe ten and then six street or you know or russell.
Maybe russell and and uniform for st and that’s kinda or area and i thought it or said he has more that for a long time and like you said with with this massive growth.
We’re gonna have to get more dip switches have it’s not gonna be something that we can i know we can just keep building out on the town because the boars were sexy two years ago and.
We can go and t or harrisburg or or braid anymore we we why is your so.
So i like that the part of it um the right we have been talking about that and the mineral kennedy’s and not even touch with a ten foot pole i know that one of them.
Couple of one and.
Revolve around a company event center and you know i ate it and you know i try to stay positive about that but i just don’t think that’s and that’s reality um.
This couple things that were in the news today that we could discuss.
The symbol we do this special transparency maybe the city has refused to release them twenty sixteen report of what they sue for safety reasons downfalls park.
[9:39] Ten publishers lights which is funded by taxpayers has the documents.
Do you think i should be released were your feelings about transparency and and see if are kinda on.
Well are you specifically talking about that terrible tragedy yes down there.
So i got a little ten month old and when i do it’s my heart goes out to.
Family you literally she said thirty seconds the kid took off my mind i can’t think of a situation where i would take my eyes off my little guy at the same time you know the travel,
unifies for a few seconds you’re looking over this way for you know it’s a terrible tragedy but there are some things that i think we can do but.
[10:23] Month once i have is as we’re going to continue to expand of town and tourism dollars which is a part of the mother.
You know all those dollars we can capture can help her cat but when we look at the falls and the potential of that area for.
Tourism dollars we need to make sure it saves me figure out the strategies,
i know we have some signage we can look at some more but we need we need to really look at this one of the things you’ll find a lot of areas like this around the country is they will be.
Yeah people of the father of the of the walking island be able to do that but we can’t have little kids you know.
We can not stress yourself what about having.
[11:03] And a specific sort of walk ways that would get you up there they would be railed appropriately so you and they have these and a few spots up there but it would get you closer to the falls in a way that you can.
Close and look at it but but then you know we will try to push more the traffic away from the rocks and that’s just the reality i think that we’re gonna have to explore it right,
and some of the most dangerous areas in particular in the way the weather changes to i try to remind people that to its like its not always like that when there,
this is like when spring comes are heavy rain at this things happened know the guards come down there and want to see if they wanna see what’s going on in here and in situations,
but more something about transparency and you know um i see specific things.
[11:48] I’m pretty sure you’re for more transferred here i forgot about area isn’t specific things that.
You can see that the council could you right away here’s here’s a really simple thing that would be pretty easy and.
It causes are already suppose to basically acknowledge that they don’t have a conflict of interest when i take the job right but anytime that there’s a public private partnership,
it would be very easy to go around the room and just reaffirm his counselor to say,
no i have no conflict of interest in this project why not go around because the public sometimes has this perception that maybe there’s some something going on now i.
I don’t know what that means a legal standing but i think a lot of people would like to know or be reaffirmed that say okay say it out loud say it before this public private partnership the you’ve got no interest and there is no benefits is laboring that hot because when.
[12:43] That kinda came up with the downtown parking ramp.
Erickson said you know i’m not invested in the project it has started to slow domino effect so then michelle said you know i’m not.
[12:57] Investing and i think kylie said to the y camera another one data with the mayor nervous.
Is this the start start going slowly people start talking about other than investing in stop the conversation.
And so we never heard from the ministrations whether or not he’s investing his daughters investing his wife is investing because of white hasn’t dustin’s a project.
In um any right there needs to be a very clear understanding the thing that i explain to people to where it comes to the downtown park around the set will christie’s she was investing and i said.
I believer in you she will say that publicly if it wasn’t true michelle and say that wasn’t true i mean what year is bad wiring at all and.
The thing that i tell people is just because they’re not investing with the parking ramp.
Doesn’t mean they’re not investing it other projects that have nothing to do with the city with the same developer that happens a lot you know i had two major developers in town.
One of them tell me to my face that the mayor’s investing with and um.
[14:13] You tell me what projects but he said he’s investing with me and i have a real problem with that i think that you’re gonna be in public service.
I usually your your business art you have to be telling people a lot i’m doing business with this person do this with this person carter shoulder different because it’s for a design aspect and and investment aspect but um.
[14:37] But he i agree i think every both they make the should have their three seconds five seconds feel.
I am not interested in this project i am doing this and have that on record and.
They are not doing in and that is why there is somehow i highly suspect so i’m like that idea.
Just recently put our for that too she’s she’s really been one of those that believes that investor should be now all exception you know.
well obviously you know as an architect all of the recuse myself from city where does transparent everything that city is this a part of an old hopefully can utilize the the ethics for their some questions and make sure that i’m,
following protocol in solving any questionable you know i just wanna i’m gonna try to,
talk to early and often and that if there’s any question about right now is in you know i think.
[15:39] I think that all the mayoral candidates now obviously they’re all been they all the same they want more transfers that’s good to lisa saying that the campaign trail so i really believe they all want what better.
Communication and a better relationship with the council just makes sense is like i said someone if i was there.
I would be achieved alligator and i would be like if the city council wants to do all set on the policy id like.
Having is that your job anyway.
And i might have some ideas of is my ideas contact each one of you and tell you what they are you can do that are you can do i will be like in one of the city that’s my job.
And i’d let you guys do whatever because it really isn’t.
And i also believe nickels in the studio will easter signals policy is really not gonna be a part time job anymore and i say natural.
It’s is how you organize your time and you know that your business not organized times so you organize your time writing policy and it’s not the,
you’ve forty hours a week you guys get together we have a working session uc what’s was work on this you do it you go ahead you before the problem the council’s area right now.
If the home a year that they are constantly have to fight because he’s writing policy and shouldn’t be.
[17:06] And it is causing them to work more i believe that i believe the lack of transparency is creating a lot more work for the city council,
because are slim to charge of finances their going to the have to go to the media they have to go ask caller director gold what’s up with this was in the beginning and answers the call next director and i believe we open this up,
is is everybody who attacked me go faster the public knows what’s going on.
You know sorry i’m getting my school wash rinse possibly yell is that my dollar bills to open,
and transparent government actually saves time and,
six month well i think what you’re saying i think most of the counselors and maybe even always word for over a year your point there about the collaboration between here and council that seems to be pretty universal and the good news is is,
i think every single candidate has eluded to the fact that they intend to work more closely with the council.
So i think you know i think that’s a positive thing that’s that should be in our future for the right.
Presumably who know who that is but but that seems to be the that seems to be all the can americanism.
[18:27] If you were if you sit on the city council when they downtown parking ramp contract first came up okay so before we do about this mess this.
For we knew about all these criminals civil suits would you board project,
i would have wanted to examine the the cost portion of it a little more,
because i don’t know every detail and i know that causes a little behind but i am a proponent of public private partnerships it’s a way to get certain things done and if we can if if this can be a win for the tax payer over the long haul.
Then i am in for a good long term density and planning so i get what you think of what he me you know i was antarctic crazier you are.
What do you think that cost us you think its a it’s a deal where maybe that is someone many cost is it wrong.
But the reason why or is working fine one minute because were put in a lot more,
where were building the foundation where do all utilities seventy one because i am so you say you know we have overs foundation and we have to sprinkle the facility that was otherwise would have to struggle,
parking garage because of structure that washes were sprinkled with look in there and very,
exactly same so we are paying for some additional upgrades or or additional source structure that we were not listening right about that.
Where the line is drawn that i mean that is something that.
[20:00] I wasn’t in a lot of those conversations and i don’t know what was included in the sum of the areas around the site claiming i don’t know what infrastructure to another some infrastructure improvements in.
I havent seen all of the utilities greg stand right in.
So i haven’t seen everything so the number south side but at the same time without being involved in that more closely i can’t really say that it’s that it’s incorrect so there is a possibility that you think that.
That’s where just or pay more i think is staph the that we should we should be in life is missing consonants are in his is a great idea this feeling that we’re paying for a lot more.
[20:45] That they should we be sharing with with developer well i the that’s information i don’t know i think we should be sharing with so i think that i think we are sharing i just don’t know.
I have seen all the exes and ohs and maybe get all the adobe something question i think of ira council this would be.
I mean work was the cost of materials and i think these are things where i would say it will when are we paying for you know what is the cost of per parking space wolves include the sides and not include the site is.
You know what is our square foot for a concrete or asphalt whatever were doing so.
I think i could ask some questions that would be real wonderful kind of the side on their and there some other factors we will you think of the lease.
No i talk to i talk to a mortgage banker office to talk to someone works in the hotel industry who holds by and sell tells.
They both told me they don’t know each other and they both told me that at least was a joke that there was no appraisal.
[21:48] It does and they said foundation two it is of the usually do appraisal of one elise would be and then they said that only was a helluva deal for factors no appraisal.
I am the said nobody size are your lease me is is little we heard of yet twenty years maybe to see the diner lease is there a lot of people at the diner lisa’s.
The six from the city they don’t own that spot the city and i think their lease originally was either fifteen.
So what do you mean yeah experience that i’m not as experienced the lease and lease terms so i really can’t elaborate on the liability.
you use to distill nowadays it’s a little bit different than solicited do things is a little different i will tell you you know washington square i think is is a really well built structure and taking some tours that and,
that’s gonna be around a while but you know i’m i haven’t seen the plans to re was having here for the.
Like this ones going is probably gonna be used for harvesting of life traffic cars ball okay so sad part is questions.
Let’s say that you look at the stuff you said you know what this looks like it’s in a horrible for us a new motor for.
And then you know that are the detroit river coming to concert or that and.
[23:15] They found out about this passes an and they found out about the you know possible lawsuits would you vote for the repeal would you’ve so march than,
well i had a lot of reservations the sickly under after some of that information came out and i would i’d,
probably wanna see more information before i feel comfortable proceeding from your for magnesium property from walmart,
i don’t know yet yeah yeah and he’s the i think is he could complete this in a cable fashion is that’s not my concern i was worried by me there is an intriguing reputation yeah he can he cannot,
he is he’s a concern there i have more concerned with i guess it in the are of you process i’d like to have a little bit more.
Consistency of those right i’m uncomfortable,
was public partnerships actually be proponent of that we see that nationwide works really well as a strategy to get a lot of things.
It depends on his involvement i’ve been doing research on that to.
And some workout really well that don’t work after all it’s just letting ship as its about finding your on this is that we’re not setting wouldn’t start good restart are really bad foot.
And when we have a chance to fix it was stolen fix it and and you know i am i joke with people that is probably never get finished early start.
[24:48] But yeah i don’t use a lady you you know public partnerships can work.
If the doctor incident in using so and so another thing that happened today.
[25:00] And i don’t know if you’ve ever heard me talk about this at city council meetings but i’m very frustrated that.
When we did river redevelopment project which are not against the original conversations with munson and johnson etc.
Where that the tree traffic was that i get to move now all of the they said that they was gonna get drastically reduced and munson talked about moses as a safety issue we get out of there.
Switching you now.
What you twenty seven million dollar early noren building new switch artificial switching my house that just half a mile later disconnects and we were seen happened today.
For reals cars fell over and spilled rain and ice and someone thank god it wasn’t petroleum villa romance.
I regret everything and reverse article between and.
The other issue i have some one of the one that happened on house cross cliff across the street and was tree fell on a car.
I mean what-what are your feelings me obviously the deals that she is somebody send me your negotiate with it the railroad to possible.
You know i’m a person that says.
[26:17] We gave twenty seven million dollars i would hope that we could set something to them while you’re sitting at that table but was another example contractor that wasn’t negotiate our nothing.
What is the design what may be the council on American do going forward to say listen.
We bought this land from you were okay with you run the trains couple tracks but let’s move all this crap by.
Well initially before i started following this on i was under the assumption maybe more that was probably what was going to happen that was probably in my diet today because files to originally that was the original plan with month,
yeah that’s that’s that’s what i recalled in it and all move but i have done a couple projects here and there where we’ve been dealing with the railroad and and.
I have heard the same things we can’t get all even when we are trying to,
do you tell if he’s through or underneath the rail yard or railroad tracks and apparently it’s takes an act of congress enacted got to do some of those things i’m not sure why that is,
the reasons i for yeah great and in those seasons go back apparently arms hundred twenty years so apparently it’s a challenging thing.
[27:34] Is real to that we’re doing something through the there’s movement i agree we paid a lot of money and i’d love to see the same that would,
prefer to see that out of your neighborhood my neighborhood trying to yeah but you look pretty clothes for gross wryly yeah that’s right every near there too so.
Yeah i always say mean yeah it would be great if those work if they were there but this is a great.
I’m a three lb we’re going to get a buzz rail yards out of the sum of downtown and it’s just as he is one of those deals where back again before we were more open about this that could be better to cut.
Do i need to send someone else once we had this money we spent it now will you know if we could negotiate a good deal.
Did we just forget about it and it was also the head of your discussions i’ve talked to a few property owners on their.
[28:29] Nobody quite knows where the snacks and in.
So there’s been rumors that we might have to pay twenty seven million dollars for land that was are the government the federal government base pay twenty seven million dollars for whey dairy owned.
Why is it that that’s funny as little raspy thing going around but there’s there’s parts that they felt like will that was federal estate so we really should be in a.
Back i see you i’m saying if it wasn’t a professional easement something that your.
Yeah okay well i don’t know that i know that was the earth yeah i was a part of and that wasn’t very you know that was obviously.
[29:10] I was those conversations like i always what it any evening this forms and stuff and you know why probably watch is on the main r ones.
[29:21] What do you think is the is is the number one issue facing i mean are we talking about are we not talking about what is the number one issue using when you gets warm and.
They you say that.
The council and the mayor should go we need to work on this right now this needs to be hard sykes transparency i transparency more policy.
What do you think for like citizenship thing in crimes when there are very transparency or two that you know you’re sometimes it is narrow for.
I think i really send that we i mean i said this before but i think it all revolves are it all revolves around girls cuz i don’t really think that we’re gonna have.
Girls like people don’t understand the potential girls that’s gonna happen mean four hundred twenty two thousand people at twenty thirty five halves million people in twenty twenty five years i mean in inf,
we could have what is that mean in fifty years mean are we talking million people here and should be thinking about what what is or transportation system look like we need to start thinking about.
What that’s gonna look like that is change to and i am often so you can you bring up growth which kind of ties into this i’ve often said.
Once we start getting better paying jobs no matter what industry and is.
No start with you people always solve a lot of these problems of their own to solve the housing problem with all the transportation problem we solve the crime problem.
With all the school funny issues with solve lots of problems there when we just say hey we’re gonna be better industry town.
[30:57] Who pays their wages and i don’t hear anybody talk about that i hear everybody talk about how he cheaper housing.
I don’t want cheaper houses who does i don’t want to become like you said happy happy when people of living in.
[31:13] Please ice part of the club moon user for years.
The worksheet you know that and i i i cringe when he loses four oz i really do it drives me.
Crazy this is like.
We don’t have to go for a lousy which is there a peoples the for what they want and we pay you know architect i know you probably weren’t commercial but.
[31:43] How do is help how do we get you nowhere house shortage just people houses as a friend they be looking for two years.
Therefore it but they they nice price range at my house thinking of buying one thing by the user they can’t find one you know what is what is a solution there.
Well for housing but just house in general,
yeah offer small formal housing angry it doesn’t necessarily have to be you know the apartments and affordable housing is you know it’s housing yes just housing is affordable and happens it’s not the projects or sciatica right should be.
I think in the course there’s a lot of opportunities i’ve seeing sony some boutique contractors coming in and messing up a few homes and they’re still.
In my mind more affordable than a lot of the things that are out on the edge of town right and that’s where i have my interest anyway so i love the idea of finding it says whether it’s programs to help support these.
These contractors who wanna make an investment in you know what we we should be making investment for this goes back to some of the other discussions before we been investing elsewhere and i think we can invest in our infrastructure but we can also investor housing stock in the core.
I like to know you talk about some of that smart.
That’s where town stuff yeah and bring plan for that to no fever her for strategic and she came up with projects keep it nice and she wants to expand those two.
[33:16] Bring prior business into the up with neighborhoods that you’re talking about the score mavericks that’s affordable housing.
If this is coming by and pick up the garbage during the trees fix the cracks in the sidewalk doing all s you now and i said we really need to get away from this.
Give a big pile of money to one developer to one part really you know like what if joe goes for housing apartments out there where the buses go as new sets in orlando these.
Hundred sixty thousand dollar houses that’s over a hundred thirty dollars that includes thirty thousand dollars in that we don’t turn over fifteen we’re when we could be with you the actual someone is it with a couple million dollars.
In the community to like me housing test maybe.
We can fix probably hundreds of homes in one year wonders yeah you to standard a little standard he is with janet talk about you now.
We’re not talking about luxury were talking about little standard lousy.
And and you know the starter home for whatever and.
[34:28] Yeah it is icing to say it development really needs to be changed now i said i was next mayor the first thing when the first person i would fire would be the the the i think i would clean house you know i would literally.
I would like your laughing i would really bad as the apart department and i’m starting to i will say.
This whole everything we have here is going in the trash we are and start new and wonderful son core and this is what we’re gonna do this is our this is our new community development will the parts q developed what should be doing community development.
And so yeah i like i like it is i love all the candidates that support that and i think a lot of them do and one current counselors would really like to see change with that.
[35:15] Well i agree with a lot it when you saying to but hmm let the record show not offering to you what is your power you basically hired pharmacy clerk.
And the couple staffers that’s all you got controller to ceo of the radio picking the best stuff.
But is it so that’s that there is a bit that’s a big issue.
What is the questions you like to ask that you basil your other guests sure.
I’m currently covered a lot of it yeah they say me and we’ve all talked about transparency to we were blue in the face of the like protecting public input.
I mean if if you said you were against can put up the first person i hear that.
So the thing about that is listeners about what are you okay with that being the meetings aren’t you absolutely have to have is a part of the whole console office building thing is a part of community building.
[36:17] When i do a project for the city or a school or church without killing people have input and if you don’t well then you you run into these transitions part of the process cool.
[36:31] Let’s see here here’s one for this when we ask every candidate and everyone is answered it from here seriously your answer is just bear with me here.
Your driving on a dark road in the story ninety your property your vision is getting a little blurry mess around the corner you see a squirrel the middle of the road planet tiny magic glass that.
Now you swerve to into it and take the ditch to miss this world already hit the swirl know schools gonna,
cool so what is a person is not others in the center button he was forceful about it but.
Wake christian eriksen yeah she was just like well i was trying to defensive driving and you know so,
no i take this off target and,
they basically was like something wrong with your life i would have the squirrel that i may be in our neighborhood c score all is there’s armies of squirrels and rabbits this is yet another.
The vicious their their country but my wife she is she is eight very cautious driver for this world but and i’m not aiming for girls might be right.
What are the do this thing they never understand the right now.
See you they turn around the stop the only is she running out and come back next though isn’t as is her after the baby aspirin,
this program for the blood pressure reading history but there in the yard stare back in is out of town and i absolutely say.
[38:10] There is i mean if you swanee cocktail he would you wouldn’t start i mean there is there so much that it’s not anything that my trees my flowers every.
Burn off that i mean anything at all of and i have my guy for my medical revoking up he required.
My wireless the baccy rewire the from the pole to my house and then.
We have a underground electric down sounds like that and so did he climbs underneath my deck and what do you do when he goes well we is stable your your your wine out underneath.
Why was rabbits love.
This why did he close the crap that they just love it so we put it up high so they could get it was it was it was pretty funny,
well if you tried pepper flakes near new flours that words for gold printer on some yeah i forgot to pack of pepper flakes.
I got a little bit of lead distributed with a twenty two caliber rifle also use i get involved in your spare ones that.
I have to pick the rabbit me your phone in the truck lane just but you’re really lobby what i think is.
[39:28] Turn the world’s museum of time,
they think its pretty yeah or something cuz yeah animals will start flighty and what’s funny is the more domestic and are sometimes they’re more bothered by music but,
yeah wild animals it seems like after they get used her for a little bit they just think of it as another major noise and then totally ignore it wants to follow me sometimes.
[39:50] Seen for a while but i’m gluing are working on a treaty compounds that want me and i was like.
I’m scared one day i was late what is your bite me what grade he’s in your crazy she is crazy squirrels do you your neighbors with wifi number something like that must be because yeah that was weird.
Because yeah he started following me and i’m like for me as well as recent hires scared me like how worried or she’s be dollar is the stuff on.
And your words are about four hundred is tell people when i bought my house sixteen years ago and.
That’s what i want yeah i don’t live in camp are blank contents were in the.
I was wondering live close to downtown so i can just walk downtown whatever i do it you know so i know is your tell people that.
[40:46] This is this church treasonous nature and there’s the address and i’m i agree with you were missing a huge opportunity if we don’t start doing something with our core.
Yow people who is your will for handouts these is cracked a little houses and stuff now it will only start lifting this.
It helps with a crime which in the real reason jealous juices is required for three cuz you start the game members living in these days they they try to find and ask me where they can and as for the they put themselves in excel.
We need to invest in some of those communities blocks out with you and i agree and i.
[41:27] I want to do the same thing like being so close to them to be able to walk or bike down there and and and so making that accessible without.
[41:36] Some of the being lacrosse fourteen for instance for the best you know that can be,
two thousand eight yeah i i don’t like the way they said i was just thinking about that i i feel like it should be a line here or it just seems like a dragstrip.
Well there’s no reason to be there were right there and there’s no reason we could have more.
We can slow traffic further wasn’t some sensor with some later something fourteenth in particular but in general i think downtown is meant to be.
A place for people all yeah ats it needs a lot walk ability i know you’re at the open house tonight for zzz sue stealing.
You know you said it what other people say we really meet we do this project was making a walkable you know makes use projects not make it and it like.
All this other crap we’ve been doing you know and stuff and and.
Make it more is just more acceptable for everybody i tell people that notice it here i wanna board forms reset flour people bitch lose don’t lose blue downtown is downtown people complain about it’s like.
[42:48] Well you probably pretty nice neighborhood is in downtown can’t you know look at our neighborhood looking policy is kind of ignored infrastructure and how would you feel i will never live there.
What was your wife wants to live there because of ice and ocean with it has that’s why and that’s why he’s doing something like that okay of course.
[43:10] Since re grouping brothers new rule you read that comment on that you can be run off.
[43:17] So most likely it’s gonna be it i see that did you enlarge it didn’t have coding and seizures and.
[43:27] Yeah chris you’ll have one challenger and.
Rick angel’s super strange i thought but you can be run off pisses five of you and.
[43:42] So that must be kind of frustrated me you do you disagree with the the disagree with the.
Because you seven if you file it.
So of majority heard in twenty ten and there was actually an increase in there already election air that’s for congress but typically i think that’s the only exception to every other off.
So it will be interesting because inevitably i think we’re gonna have less motors for our race you know that are going to participate because,
thirteen that’s where may not be participating so that i can show to the pool so that something to actually heard this the other day that i think doc on a little before start recording.
There’s there’s a pull out there that says they jamison actually has a really good.
[44:36] Possibility of getting fifty plus water in the general so that would mean.
Search for this page who have their i add you that great things i don’t think there’s any of you that you can not close why think that’s very likely and.
[44:54] So it would be completely gone call if we run off of the central district which is.
Thirty thousand registered voters under that i think it’s there’s probably about.
Twelve thousand in central i think that’s max check those numbers but.
[45:13] And then how many of those people who is what i don’t literally win the central district by ten votes yeah you know it is what it is with you you know i complain about it and it isn’t and i’m in it and.
I wish you know how i can wish for a lot of things but yeah.
How do i relieve a big mean it’s is gonna be working i’m gonna ask hopefully if i cancel three hundred dollar this runoff is specially the male race,
cuz you know you be you been watching all them and you kinda weather are staying on things and you know there’s a lot there’s a lot of similarities between.
[45:55] You will and martin and and the four so it will be interesting to see if you know of you three.
There is no if you to get in there.
Yeah it’s gonna be real interesting current sale is why it is always on the planet i don’t what you records of when i say and i haven’t heard from san carlos i don’t know thing about that he had seen him functions it.
[46:22] It’ll be it’ll just be really interesting depending on who it but but the the one upside is that is two of us on there will be a little bit of focus and attention that’s right that’s right and that’s cool.
We’ve we’ve got in second phil and,
i mean i wish we could have a few more opportunities to meet people get or message out there in a three some of these other forums yeah yeah i wish you would be more people that will focus on that you know a lot of people understand that.
He started local government you know everyone likes to complain about the president or complain about our congress people.
But it really is our local government you terminal are rolls her taxes.
You know when i see them the community we live in and i wish more people get involved because it is important role in all.
[47:13] It’s just a text in me and i think also has a lot of work to do and i think that the mayor’s to is there anything else you want to talk about four go.
Thank you guys for the opportunity and i guess i want to tell everybody to please vote on april tenth for the whole amount on her no is seven today so yeah don’t wait go go get that done but.
Yeah i’m just excited i think that i was is and i’m just really excited about the potential right now i think is is an exciting time and i think that were when you council new mayor and.
With kind of a lot of positive things are happening in our community and the growth coming i think there’s just a good opportunity to.
For canada’s upward movement for everybody saw myself yeah and angry with you today i find this.
This change carpenter whatever do this runs for years and i’ve seen a lot of useful actions and i’m finding that this one.
Of all this all the latest collections seen this is gonna be one of the biggest changes towards the government.
That’s why i wish more people would vote i really do because you gonna see that in you have to have a big impact.
[48:29] You got a potential for a concert now not officer the youth three yeah attention after you house you for sure and two new counselors and you have three you have before you house from two years ago.
They’re still getting their feet wet and you haven’t there and there’s relationships with all those people ready from past and and stuff i mean,
i think everybody on the council condos all the people running for mayor and some council candidates everything else and that’s daily hazmat with every single bro candidate genes that’s not endorse anybody saturday size she met with each one of them and said,
this is my agenda this is what i want to do in for the next two years and it really it is gonna be different change because it said.
Mr groves can you come in over the next two to four years signora this house is gonna have a lot of work to do.
A lot work to do so while good luck thank you to run off and.
[49:29] When i realized she might do it again if you’re the what,
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